After the shocking scenes of carnage in Paris, a free city in a free country with an elected government, few westerners if any will have much sympathy.
As you sow so shall you reap but that also leads on to the old 'which came first the chicken or the egg?'
Like in the school playground as kids when at one time or another most of us said he or she started it trying to unpick this tangled mess of barbarism is not going to be easy.
Certainly western intervention in parts of the Middle East, in some cases to remove dictators in others to support rebels and in others for a hidden agenda has not helped the situation.
But it was perhaps inevitable that somewhere along the line the terrorists would go too far; terrorists did once before when they attacked the World Trade Twin Towers in New York which resulted in two long wars with thousands of dead and injured military personnel and citizens.
Monday a period of silence for Paris held in western cities and towns showed a united front against those that want to bring terror to our homelands.
French President Hollande took the unusual step of addressing both houses of the country's parliament to announce plans for constitutional changes; changes that will develop those made in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo killings in January and extend the state of emergency declared at the weekend to three months.
Unsurprisingly there are some concerns.
Decent law abiding French citizens, and possibly in the U.K. too, will face more surveillance and maybe restrictions.
Politicians are between a rock and a hard place; change nothing and more acts of barbarism are likely; curb basic freedoms and in one way the terrorists have won.
House to house raids in France and Belgium have resulted in arrests and weapons finds including a rocket launcher.
Intelligence has provided the French authorities with a number of specific Islamic State targets in Syria and France has responded with all its might.
But there will be more innocents killed as there were in Paris at the weekend.
Who started it is long forgotten but who will end it is still up for grabs.
Just remember that the Syrian city of Raqqa, one of the target areas, had an estimated population of 220,268 in 2012. Many residents may have fled but not all.
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