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Since when was the word TRAITOR so abusive?

25/10/2016

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In the run up to the Labour leadership election 2016 a series of party members where suspended from the Labour party.

Reasons were at times vague and many people smelled at least on big fat rat.

For most their problems stemmed from activity on social media.

For many it also appeared to be a McCarthy style witchunt with Jeremy Corbyn supporters targeted.

If that was the case were or are Corbyn supporters excessively abusive online? Just where is the line between banter and abusive interaction online?

If you are active online and drop by political forums, especially on Facebook, you may have already experienced abuse of some sort. It could be simple school yard type name calling or something more serious. It could also be by way of a "troll", possibly of the paid kind, and aimed at getting you to respond angrily.

It is then as simple as them copying your response and sending it off to the Labour Party validation team.

Initially this writer and Labour Party member was determined she would not stoop to that level but after too many online friends were removed from the party, perhaps temporarily, but all without due democratic process, it was a case of why not?

I posted a series of reports which featured some high flying abusers in the Labour Party followed up by open letters to the validation team.

Councillor John Ferret was one and he quit Labour recently. Did he jump before he was pushed? Who knows and in his case who cares. He has posted vile stuff on Twitter since Corbyn was first elected September 2015 egged on and supported by some MPs and he continues to do so.

But here is the thing.

A few things about the so-called #LabourPurge2 are worth noting:
  • ​The timing may have been conveniently blamed on Shami Chakrabarti's report into abuse in the party but it was obviously aimed at reducing votes for Corbyn
  • How can a party suspend a member for doing nothing worse than one or more of its own MPs or councillors?
  • How can they be allowed to trawl back through your social media activity and grab stuff out of context?
  • Should joining a political party affect your freedom of expression in your own time and your own home?
  • If you are suspended from the party pending investigation and possible removal should that party still be pocketing your subscriptions?
Sadly many of those suspended from the party are only now being told WHY.

One friend today has received details of five comments made on Twitter that used the word traitor.

One was actually during an interaction with Jo Cox who was murdered in June of this year.

But and there is a big BUT.

No expletives were used, no nastiness either, but pure and simple anger in response to a lack of support for party leader Jeremy Corbyn. A party member, an ordinary retired person who responded angrily as Labour Party MPs who opposed and still oppose Corbyn closed ranks.

TRAITOR.

Traitor was one word some had warned would be off limits.

However such ridiculous infringement of an adult's use of social media would act as a red rag to a bull in many cases.

In truth for some it would become a fight for freedom of expression.

Some of those suspended refused to toe a party line if that meant a curb of freedom of expression and can you blame them?

​There was a time the Labour Party would have supported Evelyn Beatrice Hall who wrote the phrase: ""I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" as an illustration of Voltaire's beliefs. Hall's quotation is often cited to describe the principle of freedom of speech."

Social media at times is anything but social. It sometimes is more like anti-social media but how you choose to spend your free time is up to you as long as you do not break the law.

Since when has the word TRAITOR broken any laws?

I can think of far worse name calling, have seen it and experienced it in fact.

There is always the block button or the police if abuse is actual real abuse not simply silly name calling.

Remember some words hurt as they are close to the truth.

For many Corbyn supporters those who plotted from day one to undermine and then remove him from office are traitors pure and simple. They feel they have been betrayed by those who vowed to support whoever was elected leader. So a natural choice of word is traitor.

As for the Jo Cox comment hindsight is a wonderful thing.

At the time my friend commented to Jo Cox "traitor" no person could have guessed what was to follow - the murder of Jo Cox.

​I have my own theories on #LabourPurge2 and I am sure you do too.

Feel free to share your opinions in the comments section but remember the thought police may be watching. When I used that phrase in the Labour Party Forum on Facebook months ago I was ridiculed but hey I am a big girl and can take it. Sadly however it seems that was not such a silly notion after all.

Note: The "traitor" person becomes my third online buddy to quit the Labour Party rather than face a foolish unnecessary investigation. This time though the person's partner is quitting the party too. Four Corbyn supporters gone but at what price? Four decent law abiding individuals who are valuable members of society.

I presume the Labour Party will not want their votes come election time then?

About that word Blairite.

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Sharon
25/10/2016 09:43:53 pm

I paid to vote this year... I haven't joined the Labour Party because of the infringement to freedom of speech that I have seen in the suspensions...I just don't feel comfortable with anyone policing me - much less a bunch of traitors who've twisted lied and cheated to undermine the leadership. I would need to see action taken to get the NEC in line....they obviously aren't. If I observe traitorous behaviour I'm going to name it...no matter who it is.....

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Eileen
26/10/2016 08:00:31 am

Thanks Sharon for honest comment. We should all appreciate honesty. It helps us learn and grow. There is abuse and then there is silliness. imo it as if Labour want to become unelectable under JC

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Dave Russell
26/10/2016 12:47:09 pm

I fully support the premise of the arguments contained in the above article. I am currently suspended for an alleged heinous crime (according to Labour) of my lawfull right to freely associate and the right to freedom of expression.

Sadly Labour HQ and some in the NEC feel they are above the law and members who support Jeremy Corbyn are beneath the law. This situition is unsustainable.

I have just received a demanded SAR from Labour HQ which is full of inaccuracies and redacted information they claim is to protect third parties under the Data Protection Act 1998. The same information will be required in order to defend the allegations in an appeal to contest a star chamber trial by NEC unqualified persons using data which was supplied to them without my agreement or notification by the Labour Party of their intention to do so. This information has been legally requested in addition to the SAR which is being completely ignored. The appeal trial by unqualified people, without due procees cannot go forward without acess to the full nature of the allegations. I also require the names of any accusers, the names of any complainers, and the names plus positions of people making decisions. The decisions to sumararily suspend me on flimsy evidence and trawling social media without my consent and which others are now contesting using the real laws and not made up rules on the fly against members wishes.

The Labour Party claim I have been a member for 17 years when in fact it is more like 35 years when previous addresses and union membership is taken into consideration. They were asked for all information which was not supplied and appear to have added aditional misdemeanours which were not notified in the suspension notice of 1 tweet picture and a picture of my satrical twitter bio.It's a complete and utter farce. The Labour Party originaly claimed I was a supporter and not a full member in the suspension email and no right of appeal was given to me. I have appealed none the less as is my right as a full member. As yet after many months and like Ken Livingstone the rights of members are being denied by pompous unknowns who feel their judgment is better than the courts and the law.

NEC members are not employees of Labour and are lay people who have been elected to serve and represent members. The have not been elected to punish members for acting on their legal rights to communicate.

The appeals procedure is a joke and only appears to be instigated if one is a powerful union leader or big donor. Thousands are still waiting for appeal hearings and after weeks after conference is a complete disgrace.

I am still paying for membership which is used to attack labours own members without members agreements and also funding #ChickenCoup activities to oust a democratically elected leader just 11 months after he was elected with a huge mandate.

Who is the traitor here? Not me!



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Eileen
26/10/2016 01:00:08 pm

Well said Dave.

We look forward to posting your full account of what this summer has meant to you in due course.

In the meantime a further post will follow later re the person in this post. Such disrespectful tretament of people who had the good grace to actually join a political party they support.

WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH!

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Dave Russell
26/10/2016 01:40:22 pm

Indeed Eileen. I look forward to making a complete report and exposition when I have the complete information to hand and when this farce of an inquisition and trial by political sham is finally over. That will be my pleasure! Whether Labour HQ or NEC like it or not. I have no intention of signing my legal rights away by a decleration either. I suspect many will not also.

Labour HQ do not employ me, it's the other way around, as is the case with all members. Labour elite should remember that members are the party not just a few people in Labour HQ. Moreover by a previous NEC disgruntled or influenced by bitter MPs who are worried Jeremy Corbyn, is going to nationalise their gravy trains.

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