This post is a type of part two following on from Tuesday's "Since when was the word TRAITOR so abusive."
The above letter was received by the person in Tuesday's story; a Labour Party member who was recently suspended from the party for a handful of angry tweets.
Tweets which on the grand scale of abuse would probably be laughed out of court. No swearing, no nastiness and no threats.
For me it is ironic that in so many ways Labour's NEC and General Secretary Iain McNicol are acting on a par with the management of American owned supermarket chain Asda.
How so I hear you say? Well this is how.
When an Asda colleague faced disciplinary action for a silly angry comment on Facebook, with no names but obvious hints that Asda was the target, he was hauled over the coals. As an older man months away from retirement he opted to act with his feet and walked.
That person was and still is my husband.
But among those hauled over the coals for his indiscretion, calling ASDA "shite factory" and the "head man" useless following a crappy night shift, was an older female colleague who dared to LIKE his post.
She in fact was given "counselling" for her sins.
So how is the Labour party different? The answer is that at this time it is not.
People choose to join the Labour Party and pay for the privilege. They do so for many reasons.
They use social media in their own time and what they choose to share and re-share should be down to them.
If they break the law or are truly abusive that is a different matter.
But if party members share another person's social media comment what then?
Will the Labour Party like Asda offer counselling? Will they exclude a member for retweeting?
The following was retweeted by our source and forms part of the suspension process in this case:
ŷStrong stuff that makes your blood boil? Banter that will be a step too far for some? Hilarious? Silliness or what?
Opinion: aged 64 perhaps I am out of touch. Certainly some of those currently suspended from the Labour Party are my age or older.
They have seen life and some. They know first hand real trials and tribulations. They are real adults living in the real world.
Do the Labour Party want to be elected or not? Do they only want to be elected if they have removed Jeremy Corbyn? Do they think they can disrespect and or remove members and those same people will vote for them?
I am increasingly at a loss as to WTF is going on and why.
Do they think this constant "bad news week" will do the party's image any good? Will they say well you should not share it online?
Too that I would have to say "on yer bike."
Tough working-class people do not always swear but some do. Some are better educated than others. We the people are far from "champagne socialists." But as a point of fact many of those in Labour attacking Corbyn as some sort of "champagne socialist" are far from working class.
But it is a convenient tool like allegations of perceived abuse.
In much the same way unnamed sources within the Labour Party feed the right-wing mainstream media negative articles those accused and suspended are finding it increasingly difficult to get information from the NEC and are sharing their stories with people like me.
Letters and documents legally requesting information are arriving with redactions.
What have they to hide? Who is trying to hide?
Let's face it any person can screenshot an angry tweet or comment, send it off to the dreadfully named Compliance Unit of the Labour party and have any person suspended.
Jeremy Corbyn may not do personal but many ordinary people do. We lash out on social media often following provocation.
The above letter received by our source is not the first. As a point of fact that person tells me "they just asked me to appeal. I've already appealed 3 times what do they want? Blood" and perhaps they do; their "pound of flesh" to quote Shakespeare but that is not a politically correct saying these days.
Many things about all of this make me angry.
As yet I am not directly affected but we lefties traditionally care for and about each other.
Seeing the Labour Party act much like Asda chastising employees is more than worrying though. It is a bloody disgrace.
OK now do your worst Mr McNicol.
Free speech ASDA or lack of it - http://www.wherebuttheuk.com/uk-news/free-speech-and-asda-or-the-lack-of-it
In the run up to the Labour leadership election 2016 a series of party members where suspended from the Labour party.
Reasons were at times vague and many people smelled at least on big fat rat.
For most their problems stemmed from activity on social media.
For many it also appeared to be a McCarthy style witchunt with Jeremy Corbyn supporters targeted.
If that was the case were or are Corbyn supporters excessively abusive online? Just where is the line between banter and abusive interaction online?
If you are active online and drop by political forums, especially on Facebook, you may have already experienced abuse of some sort. It could be simple school yard type name calling or something more serious. It could also be by way of a "troll", possibly of the paid kind, and aimed at getting you to respond angrily.
It is then as simple as them copying your response and sending it off to the Labour Party validation team.
Initially this writer and Labour Party member was determined she would not stoop to that level but after too many online friends were removed from the party, perhaps temporarily, but all without due democratic process, it was a case of why not?
I posted a series of reports which featured some high flying abusers in the Labour Party followed up by open letters to the validation team.
Councillor John Ferret was one and he quit Labour recently. Did he jump before he was pushed? Who knows and in his case who cares. He has posted vile stuff on Twitter since Corbyn was first elected September 2015 egged on and supported by some MPs and he continues to do so.
But here is the thing.
A few things about the so-called #LabourPurge2 are worth noting:
One friend today has received details of five comments made on Twitter that used the word traitor.
One was actually during an interaction with Jo Cox who was murdered in June of this year.
But and there is a big BUT.
No expletives were used, no nastiness either, but pure and simple anger in response to a lack of support for party leader Jeremy Corbyn. A party member, an ordinary retired person who responded angrily as Labour Party MPs who opposed and still oppose Corbyn closed ranks.
Traitor was one word some had warned would be off limits.
However such ridiculous infringement of an adult's use of social media would act as a red rag to a bull in many cases.
In truth for some it would become a fight for freedom of expression.
Some of those suspended refused to toe a party line if that meant a curb of freedom of expression and can you blame them?
There was a time the Labour Party would have supported Evelyn Beatrice Hall who wrote the phrase: ""I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" as an illustration of Voltaire's beliefs. Hall's quotation is often cited to describe the principle of freedom of speech."
Social media at times is anything but social. It sometimes is more like anti-social media but how you choose to spend your free time is up to you as long as you do not break the law.
Since when has the word TRAITOR broken any laws?
I can think of far worse name calling, have seen it and experienced it in fact.
There is always the block button or the police if abuse is actual real abuse not simply silly name calling.
Remember some words hurt as they are close to the truth.
For many Corbyn supporters those who plotted from day one to undermine and then remove him from office are traitors pure and simple. They feel they have been betrayed by those who vowed to support whoever was elected leader. So a natural choice of word is traitor.
As for the Jo Cox comment hindsight is a wonderful thing.
At the time my friend commented to Jo Cox "traitor" no person could have guessed what was to follow - the murder of Jo Cox.
I have my own theories on #LabourPurge2 and I am sure you do too.
Feel free to share your opinions in the comments section but remember the thought police may be watching. When I used that phrase in the Labour Party Forum on Facebook months ago I was ridiculed but hey I am a big girl and can take it. Sadly however it seems that was not such a silly notion after all.
Note: The "traitor" person becomes my third online buddy to quit the Labour Party rather than face a foolish unnecessary investigation. This time though the person's partner is quitting the party too. Four Corbyn supporters gone but at what price? Four decent law abiding individuals who are valuable members of society.
I presume the Labour Party will not want their votes come election time then?
About that word Blairite.
Op-ed: According to an ICM poll Monday their latest poll figures suggest the Labour party is not as far ahead as it should be at this stage of the political game.
ICM Phone: CON 38%, LAB 33%, LDEM 7%, UKIP 13%, GRN 3%
ICM Online: CON 36%, LAB 31%, LDEM 7%, UKIP 16%, GRN 4%
The problem with polls is they are not reliable but they are usually used to suit.
Ahead of the GE 2015 pundits were predicting a hung parliament and then miraculously as the actual polls closed switched to show a majority Tory vote which proved to be correct.
That means the latest ICM polls can and will be viewed to suit but may be flawed.
One writer at the Labour List, Luke Akehurst, a man standing for election to the NEC, Labour's governing body, was quick to respond to the polls tweeting:
"Corbyn should put party above faction & resign. He has wrong politics to win an election, & lacks skills & experience to lead effectively."
Why would a man who feels this way want to work as part of Labour's NEC?
But Mr Akehurst has been saying similar for some time; he has openly showed a lack of respect for the party leader and more.
I imagine that may appeal to those actively working to oust Jeremy Corbyn as party leader but will anger many more supporters and voters.
Currently the Tory party is not just split it is disintegrating mainly over the EU referendum.
Now could be the perfect time for Labour to unify and organise but many will think it will be a case of fighting a losing battle as self-servers within the party continue on their merry way.
Tuesday Akehurst posted "Time for a reality check: Labour is plunging to historic lows" at the Labour List a website that often bears little resemblance to the Labour party and its supporters; it often reads more like an opposition publication.
One can almost read the glee Mr Akehurst feels in posting yet another damning report undermining Corbyn's leadership.
Akehurst may choose to believe that "ICM are often described as the gold standard of opinion pollsters in terms of accuracy" but we do not. He adds "And ComRes also showed us 5% behind this week" for good measure.
Jeremy Corbyn has been party leader since September 12, 2015, and has faced a barrage of criticism from day one; criticism from within the party but mainly employees such as politicians not supporters and voters.
He was elected with a huge mandate but some people will not be happy until he is ousted and the party split.
You could understand that if attacks were coming from the Tory party but they are not.
In January 2016 the Telegraph ran a live blog titled "Labour revolt: Shadow minister quits on live TV in fury over Jeremy Corbyn's revenge reshuffle - live."
It is telling that report included tweets from Akehurst and some of his little gang.
Jamie Reed @jreedmp tweeted "So people who campaigned, worked & sacrificed so much to establish the UK's most redistributive gvt ever are now 'hard right'. Inexplicable."
And accepting the prompt John Woodcock MP tweeted ""Hard right" in British politics means the BNP. Shadow chancellor on media about his own MPs - destructive madness."
Yet it appears fine for those three men to call Mr Corbyn's supporters hard left which following that logic must mean we are all raving communists?
As a handful of disgruntled Labour activists and politicians jockey for position we the ordinary voters and party supporters are watching.
That is not any sort of threat but a reminder that YOU are not the party.
We are all the Labour party and without supporters the Tories will be in office for decades.
Perhaps those planning a coup or coups think they can act this year and give themselves time to recover before the 2020 scheduled election but they are wrong.
A coup could be that straw that breaks the camel's back for many Labour supporters.
Those touted to replace Mr Corbyn may appeal to floating voters but will offer little to socialists or left-wing politics supporters.
We do not need another centre right of politics party; we need a left wing political party in government and with help from those riding the gravy train that could become reality.
Having tweeted for Corbyn to resign Akehurst back pedals slightly in his report Tuesday saying:
Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell have two and a half weeks to turn round our performance and win the May elections.
How do you feel Comrades when you read that?
Oh the arrogance.
I doubt Akehurst et al will be delighted if Labour does well in the May elections but it will shut the coup gang up at least temporarily.
Most times we blame the right wing MSM for undermining Corbyn and causing party splits but who do we blame when it is these people and includes one man expected to be elected to the NEC?
What future for the NEC and more importantly what future for Labour?
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Op-Ed: The right-wing media are loving Labour party tussles that have surfaced since Jeremy Corbyn was elected party leader on September 12, 2015. But all too often it seems there are some within the party, and not just the rank and file, that are lapping it up if not actively encouraging it. This has led to open letters in Tory supporting publications, as well as others that lean to the left, attacking Mr Corbyn and aiming to undermine him at every opportunity.
An internal struggle to get control of the NEC, Labour's National Executive Committee, a body that decides the direction and policies of the party is underway.
And the state of Israel could be playing a part, one way or another.
Not much of the above sits well with this long time Labour voter.
She like so many ordinary working class voters feels uncomfortable simply when she hears career politicians speaking about reconnecting with the working class as if this section of society is alien to them.
There was a time when working class people occupied the senior roles of the Labour party and indeed that party's seats in the House of Commons.
The Tory party front benches became a millionaire's row some years ago and at one time it was a similar picture at the other side of the house. But before you think this piece is all about the politics of envy hold that thought. Most working class people admire those who manage to run a successful political career and along the way help the rest of us. The politics of greed is a Tory concept or at least it used to be.
But what about those seeking power in the Labour party that have their own agendas?
This week the Manchester and Leeds Jewish Telegraph reports "GOVERNMENT Minister Jo Johnson has demanded an investigation into antisemitism at Oxford. His call came after the university's Labour Club was accused of having "some kind of problem with Jews"."
"Joseph Edmund Johnson is a Conservative Party politician. He has been the Member of Parliament for Orpington since the general election in May 2010" and he is the brother of one-time London mayor and the man tipped as a possible future PM of the UK Boris Johnson.
The Telegraph continues by saying Oxford’s "co-chairman Alex Chalmers made national headlines this week after he quit the group, accusing it of antisemitism. The 20-year-old history student, who is not Jewish, said he decided to resign after the club endorsed Israel Apartheid Week. Universities Minister Johnson said he was concerned over "reports of intimidation of Jewish students on campuses, which risked curtailing free speech"."
While Israel Apartheid Week would need carefully managing as there will be students of the Jewish faith attending the university it seems a fairly good subject for a student protest and as if in some vague way to protect the free speech of some it is being curbed for others.
Sadly some have taken anti-Semitism to a whole new level recently but that includes Zionist supporters.
Having written and followed reports during the last Israeli occupation of Gaza which resulted in major infrastructure damage to the country and a huge loss of life it is difficult to empathise with the Israeli problem as it stands today.
When you build a huge wall, include the side that faces the sea and prevent fisherman making a living, land grab and extend your borders, tell people of your faith across the world "come on come all" and simply expect other residents to vamoose you are on a hiding to nothing.
Friends of Israel have many groups across the world and especially in the UK. They receive cross party support already.
But it is galling how some are trying to use the Israel Palestine two-state issue to undermine Mr Corbyn.
The timing of the Oxford investigation announcement which ties in with a proposed British government ban on any UK based Israeli trade boycott stinks.
The government has even tried to say that a ban would protect UK national security.
It will of course protect the incomes of those who have a vested interest in such trade and help keep the state of Israel ticking over nicely thank-you while the people of Palestine and Gaza starve.
The ban will be for public procurement but once in place it could of course be extended.
The IBT Times reports "On 17 February the government published new guidelines that aimed to "stop inappropriate procurement boycotts by public authorities". The guidelines have been published under an "open consultation", which means that British citizens are able to respond to the proposal by emailing their suggestions to the Department for Communities and Local Government."
Thousands have reportedly written in to complain about the ban; will all critics be branded anti-semetic?
One man who is angling to be re-elected to the NEC and is gathering support is Luke Akehurst. A piece about him in the Jewish Telegraph begins with this "BEING appointed director of BICOM's We Believe in Israel department was a dream job for Luke Akehurst. Luke, who has just stood down after 12 years as a Labour councillor in Hackney, spent 11 years as a lobbyist for a PR company and worked with Weber Shandwick, largely for the defence industry, as well as for property companies and local authorities. "As a PR consultant, you don't get a lot of choice about your clients," he said. "It was almost my dream job to run a pro-Israel campaigning organisation."
And therein lies the rub.
A man who wants to be part of the body that determines Labour party policy with links to the defence industry and whose dream job was working at the Believe in Israel department.
Support for Israel has declined in the UK but that is not down to any type of religious hate but rather people despairing of what they often see these days as a rogue state.
Young students have always protested-take David Cameron when he was at Oxford and voicing support for hanging Nelson Mandela.
The British electorate needs a Labour party working as one and for issues at home but one that does not support apartheid in the world in my opinion.
From the Jewish Telegraph
Why non-Jewish Luke's family has always given support to Israel
Minister seeks Oxford probe on antisemitism
From the Independent
Palestinians attack Tony Blair for helping Israel strike 'secret peace deal' with Hamas
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