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Shouting Tories are not convincing at PMQs

23/3/2016

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Op-ed: It's Wednesday and it's PMQs if your blood pressure can stand it.

Jeremy Corbyn wins when he asks Cameron about ESA cuts and tries for real answers but simply gets Cameron spinning like a whipping top. Cameron refers to flawed figures claiming people are better off.

He says the Tories are working on clearing the deficit and the Tories do not want to leave debt for the next generation. Well his next generation will inherit a great deal from the Cameron pot when he leaves this earth but kids of poorer families will not be so lucky; they will not get the financial head start in life he did.

But we are back to noisy theatrics and Jeremy Corbyn is spot on when he says to Cameron it is time to leave the theatrics and share with us all how the black hole Osborne has created will be filled.

​We are back on the attack Labour theme but this time it is not just pre 2010 he uses information garnered probably from 'they work for us' and those nasty moles operating inside of Labour or spin doctors or fiction writers to hit at the heart of the party.

Cameron has already used the fact that some Labour MPs voted with the government and picks to pieces the party opposite because of that and some sort of list.

He is helped along by the damning list of which Labour party MPs support Corbyn and which are hostile. ( The list can be viewed at the end of this report)

Showing all his bully boy charm Cameron is like a cat that has got the cream or is that a Cameron with a pig's head?

So Mr Corbyn is left fighting a hard battle taking Cameron to task due to Labour lightweights.

House Speaker John Bercow is back to weak leadership and too few calls to order.

A Tory raises a question about rooting out anti-Semitism which is obviously a pointed attack on Labour and its main MPs. Having taken the feed from that MP Cameron it into an attack on Labour claiming there is a rise in anti-Semitism in the Labour party.

That is a weak and flawed argument spun by the Tories after a diet of leaks by right wing members of the Labour party.

For the record supporting the BDS movement and criticising Israel for building a wall that cripples another country while continuing with an illegal land grab is not anti-Semitic.

Those like Luke Akehurst standing for the Labour party NEC, posting newsletters online for all to see that talk about the hard left in Labour and a rise in anti-Semitism, appear to want Labour to fail or be out of office for decades but in truth they just want Jeremy Corbyn ousted.

Akehurst has links to the so-called Bitterites that hope to turn the Labour party back a few decades to Blair politics and policies.

They look at his landslide victory in 1997 but forget a fair few facts on that score; for some it is because they were only kids or young people back then.

They fail to recognise that in 1997 the people had finally had enough of crippling Tory politics that begun under Thatcher the milk snatcher.

For floating voters, and some hard hit Tories, the final nail was in the Tory coffin and that is what will happen again. Push people so far and they make a ripple; push them to the edge and they wake up and use their vote.

Does Cameron still have confidence in the Chancellor asks a young SNP MP but all he gets is an 'of course' added to wild claims about Osborne's record.

The Nasty Party with chief nasty David Cameron at the helm is in full flow as the Scottish people are once again told how they would have been independent soon had they voted to leave the union and what a disaster that would have been. Yes keep it up Dave and next time around the Scottish people will vote as one and run to the hills.

That tack has a short term bonus for Cameron as it guarantees more people in Scotland vote SNP which was Labour country at one time.

Cameron betrays his alleged one nation principles over and over again.

In more obscene party politics we briefly touch on the Queen's 90th birthday without any details of what that will cost us all.


Rundown

Overall it was a rowdy and childish PMQs with shouty Tories who show they are on the defensive.

One thing it highlights is politicians who are good speakers and have good script writers and a team backing them all the way can talk the talk but may not be good politicians.

The Tory game plan appears to be shouting as loud as you can while waving your arms and wagging fingers. Well as they say empty vessels make the most noise.

The shouting seems to be worse since Mr Corbyn became party leader in September 2015; that could be as he asked for a kinder, gentler politics to fit with his style.

In the end Corbyn will shine given some Labour backbench support and people who tune in will see a Tory party on the back burner picking holes in all and sundry to cover their tracks.

Some members of the Tory party show their ageist tendencies when they giggle as Corbyn uses a phrase of my generation 'fine and dandy' but that is not a good look for a supposed one nation government.

But slick Labour MPs who can also talk and spin take note.

Neil Kinnock was, or so I was told when I wrote a piece about him, a brilliant speaker but he did not gel with the voting public.

Kinnock failed on many fronts when he tried to become PM scuppered in part by the Tory propaganda machine.

To win the next election Labour need to do one thing and that is support the elected party leader rather than run off at tangents splitting the party.

Unless these backstabbers are simply as many claim Red Tories wanting their own cushy number and my way or the highway politics they should work uniting the party.

False flags being used by Cameron and his government should not be given out by those who claim to be Labour supporters and certainly not by those standing for the party's NEC.

Tory party credibility is shot and now is the time. But if Mr Corbyn and his shadow chancellor are not supported they are being set up to fail and many people will never forgive or forget that.

THE LIST
The list contains at last one spelling mistake highlighted below. If you look at the list some of the assessments could be true but I doubt that Ed Miliband is a Corbyn hostile; far from it.

So the list may have been created from info received via news reports, labour leaks, twitter streams, other social media and more.

It could be fabricated and aimed at undermining the Labour Party and dividing supporters, MOs and members.

It has all the hallmarks of a childish Etonian prank, you like stuffing your dick in the mouth of a dead pig.

Probably best ignored then.

Labour loyalty list supplied by person or persons unknown.

MP                         Group
Andy McDonald  Core group
Catherine Smith  Core group
Dennis Skinner  Core group
Diane Abbott     Core group
Grahame Morris  Core group
Ian Lavery  Core group
Ian Mearns   Core group
Imran Hussain Core group
Jeremy Corbyn Core group
John McDonnell Core group
Jon Trickett Core group
Kate Osamor Core group
Kelvin Hopkins Core group
RIP Michael Meacher Core group
Rebecca Long-Bailer Core group
Ronnie Campbell Core group
Richard Burgon Core group
Clive Lewis Core group
Rachael Maskell Core group
Andy Slaughter Core group
Angela Rayner Core group
Alex Cunningham Core group
Albert Owen Core group
Catherine West Core group
Margaret Greenwood Core group
Carolyn Harris Core group
Chinyelu Onwurah Core group
Christina Rees Core group
Dave Anderson Core group
Dawn Butler Core group
David Winnick Core group
Debbie Abrahams Core group
Emily Thornberry Core group
Emma Lewell-Buck Core group
Vicky Foxcroft Core group
Harry Harpham Core group
Helen Goodman Core group
Holly Lynch Core group
Ian Lucas Core group
Jo Stevens Core group
Kate Hollern Core group
Karen Buck Core group
Karl Turner Core group - good man Karl Hull MP
Keir Starmer Core group
Kevin Brennan Core group
Khalid Mahmood Core group
Liz McInnes Core group
Lilian Greenwood Core group
Lindsay Hoyle Core group
Louise Haigh Core group
Lisa Nandy Core group
Marie Rimmer Core group
Mary Glindon Core group
Nick Thomas-Symonds Core group
Owen Smith Core group
Pat Glass Core group
Paula Sheriff Core group
Rob Marris Core group
Rosie Cooper Core group
Rupa Huq Core group
Roberta Blackman-Woods Core group
Sarah Champion Core group
Sharon Hodgson Core group
Steve Rotheram Core group
Stephen Hepburn Core group 
Sue Hayman Core group
Susan Elan Jones Core group
Teresa Pearce Core group
Tom Watson Core group
Valerie Vaz Core group
Vernon Coaker Core group
Virenda Sharma Core group
Wayne David Core group
Yasmin Qureshi Core group
John Cryer Core group
Alan Whitehead Neutral but not hostile
Adrian Bailey Neutral but not hostile
Andrew Gwynne Neutral but not hostile
Andy Burnham Neutral but not hostile
Andrew Smith Neutral but not hostile
Angela Eagle Neutral but not hostile
Ann Clwyd Neutral but not hostile
Barbara Keeley Neutral but not hostile
Barry Gardiner Neutral but not hostile
Bill Esterson Neutral but not hostile
Catherin McKinnell Neutral but not hostile
Chris Bryant Neutral but not hostile
Chris Matheson Neutral but not hostile
Clive Betts Neutral but not hostile
Clive Efford Neutral but not hostile
Colleen Fletcher Neutral but not hostile
David Crausby Neutral but not hostile
David Hanson Neutral but not hostile
Derek Twigg Neutral but not hostile
Gavin Shuker Neutral but not hostile
Geraint Davies Neutral but not hostile
Gerald Jones Neutral but not hostile
Gerald Kaufman Neutral but not hostile
Gisela Stuart Neutral but not hostile
Gordon Marsden Neutral but not hostile
Graham Stringer Neutral but not hostile
Heidi Alexander Neutral but not hostile
Helen Hayes Neutral but not hostile
Helen Jones Neutral but not hostile
Huw Irrance-Davies Neutral but not hostile
Iain Wright Neutral but not hostile
Jack Dromey Neutral but not hostile
Jeff Smith Neutral but not hostile
Jessica Morden Neutral but not hostile
Jim Cunningham Neutral but not hostile
Jim Dowd Neutral but not hostile
Jim Fitzpatrick Neutral but not hostile
John Healey Neutral but not hostile
David Lammy Neutral but not hostile
Jon Cruddas Neutral but not hostile
Judith Cummins Neutral but not hostile
Julie Cooper Neutral but not hostile
Kate Green Neutral but not hostile
Karin Smyth Neutral but not hostile
Kate Hoey Neutral but not hostile
Kevin Barron Neutral but not hostile
Madeleine Moon Neutral but not hostile
Mark Hendrick Neutral but not hostile
Matthew Pennycook Neutral but not hostile
Mike Gapes Neutral but not hostile
Mike Kane Neutral but not hostile
Naseem Shah Neutral but not hostile
Nia Giffith Neutral but not hostile
Nic Dakin Neutral but not hostile
Nick Brown Neutral but not hostile
Nick Smith Neutral but not hostile
Paul Blomfield Neutral but not hostile
Paul Farrelly Neutral but not hostile
Paul Flynn Neutral but not hostile
Peter Dowd Neutral but not hostile
Peter Kyle Neutral but not hostile
Ruth Cadbury Neutral but not hostile
Rushanara Ali Neutral but not hostile
Roger Godsiff Neutral but not hostile
Seema Malhotra Neutral but not hostile
Steve McCabe Neutral but not hostile
Stephen Timms Neutral but not hostile
Tulip Siddiq Neutral but not hostile
Thangham Debbonaire Neutral but not hostile
Wes Streeting Neutral but not hostile
Yvonne Fovargue Neutral but not hostile
Alan Johnon (presumably Johnson so list creator failed then) Core group negative
Alan Meale Core group negative
Angela Smith Core group negative
Anna Turley Core group negative
Ed Miliband Core group negative
Ben Bradshaw Core group negative
Bridget Phillipson Core group negative
Diana Johnson Core group negative
Daniel Zeichner Core group negative
Dan Jarvis Core group negative
Derek Twigg Core group negative
Frank Field Core group negative
Gareth Thomas Core group negative
George Howarth Core group negative
Geoffrey Robinson Core group negative
Gloria de Piero Core group negative
Graham Allen Core group negative
Hilary Benn Core group negative
Ian Murray Core group negative
Jo Cox Core group negative
Jenny Chapman Core group negative
Joan Ryan Core group negative
John Mann Core group negative
John Spellar Core group negative
Jon Ashworth Core group negative
Julie Elliott Core group negative
Kate Green Core group negative
Keith Vaz Core group negative
Kerry McCarthy Core group negative
Kevan Jones Core group negative
Liam Byrne Core group negative
Louise Ellman Core group negative
Lucy Powell Core group negative
Lyn Brown Core group negative
Margaret Beckett Core group negative
Maria Eagle Core group negative
Meg Hillier Core group negative
Natascha Engel Core group negative
Neil Coyle Core group negative
Richard Burden Core group negative
Ruth Smeeth Core group negative
Rob Flello Core group negative
Shabana Mahmood Core group negative
Stephen Doughty Core group negative
Stephen Kinnock Core group negative
Jess Phillips Core group negative
Jonathan Reynolds Core group negative
Steve Reed Core group negative
Stephen Pound Core group negative
Alan Campbell Hostile group
Alison McGovern Hostile group
Ann Coffey Hostile group
Barry Sheerman Hostile group
Caroline Flint Hostile group
Chris Evans Hostile group
Chris Leslie Hostile group
Chuka Umunna Hostile group
Elizabeth Kendall Hostile group
Emma Reynolds Hostile group
Fiona Mactaggart Hostile group
Graham Jones Hostile group
Harriet Harman Hostile group
Ian Austin Hostile group
Ivan Lewis Hostile group
Jamie Reed Hostile group
John Woodcock Hostile group
Luciana Berger Hostile group
Margaret Hodge Hostile group
Mark Tami Hostile group
Mary Creagh Hostile group
Melanie Onn Hostile group
Michael Dugher Hostile group
Pat McFadden Hostile group
Phil Wilson Hostile group
Rachel Reeves Hostile group
Simon Danczuk Hostile group
Rosie Winterton Hostile group
Tom Blenkinsop Hostile group
Sadiq Khan Hostile group
Stephen Twigg Hostile group
Siobhain McDonagh Hostile group
Stella Creasy Hostile group
Toby Perkins Hostile group
Tristram Hunt Hostile group
Yvette Cooper Hostile group
6 Comments
Hannah
23/3/2016 07:05:18 pm

Thank you for your very comprehensive and perfect advice. I wonder whether that over-covered referendum is not already instrumental to divert the voters from the local election. The Tories turned the it around with their lies about Labour's economy and are they doing it now with the referendum for the voters not to take the local election seriously which they should because it would crack the Tories if the seats turn Labour.

This local election is so vital as it has never been before to take the power out of Cam's hands..

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Eileen
23/3/2016 07:16:55 pm

Thanks Hannah

Surely by now voters have had enough and can see through Cameron's lies and spin?

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Steve Cheney
23/3/2016 08:02:57 pm

The important thing to remember about the Bitterites is that many of them are being lobbied by corporate interests, and many others are looking forward to lucrative careers when they get bored of this whole politics lark. Those sources of income rely on them being able to toe a pro-corporate line in Parliament. What they DON'T rely on is Labour being in power.

I think it is very likely that there are conflicts of interest here. Some pro-Trident Labour MPs will be receiving money from the weapons industry; and that will mean that they have a strong incentive to keep Labour pro-Trident, even if that means opposing the elected leader and making the party look like a shambles.

The reason deselection scares them so much is that they know damn well that it's a threat that they can't use against Corbyn and his allies - because they are people who became MPs and saw it as their job, not as a career stepping stone. And as a result of that, they are well liked personally by their constituents. Most of Corbyn's most vocal opponents, by contrast, don't get much love from their constituents. They were parachuted into safe Labour seats so that they would be elected as MPs - not because they have a connection to the area, but because it suited Blair to have kindred spirits in Parliament. The fact that their constituents wouldn't notice if their name fell off the ballot paper and was replaced with Boaty McBoatface means that they'd be incredibly vulnerable to deselection. And that's why they treat its mere mention like a death threat.

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Eileen
23/3/2016 08:48:49 pm

Thanks Steve.for a comprehensive comment.

I think it is increasingly clear there will have to be deselections.

But the fall out from that will be yet another distraction.

Some in Labour possibly Tories who sneaked in via the new membership or greedy MPs are feeding the MSM but that list looks fake to me on so many levels. Another smear campaign aimed at taking the heat from the Tories. And unless the majority unite behind Corbyn it will keep on playing out.

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Richard Turner
23/3/2016 08:30:48 pm

Small point, but as you do point out that there's a spelling error in the list, the word used by people who promote and commit the aggressive expansion into Palestinian land to describe those that oppose it is 'anti-Semitic', not 'anti-Semetic'.

Good article, though.

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Eileen
23/3/2016 08:55:09 pm

Thanks Richard

Spellcheck was giving me all sorts of spellings today, American maybe, I will edit later.

I imagine that Tory list was sweated over some time while this report was quicky done as I watched and my BP rose :)

I do not see any of the below in the Labour party though:
Anti-Semitism. The belief or behavior hostile toward Jews just because they are Jewish. It may take the form of religious teachings that proclaim the inferiority of Jews, for instance, or political efforts to isolate, oppress, or otherwise injure them. It may also include prejudiced or stereotyped views about Jews.

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